Am 14.09.2015 um 20:50 schrieb Adam Williamson:
On Mon, 2015-09-14 at 20:38 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:It's not a case of whether anyone here wants to go down that road or not, because we are already there. There is a reason that the Atomic / CoreOS idea combined with Docker is gaining traction, and it is because it deals with the reality of dealing with software whose dependencies don't work in the traditional distribution worldso i don't live in the real world?Last time I checked, Harald Reindl was not the only Fedora user in the world. Your argument essentially boils down to "I don't do this, therefore nobody else in the world does, or at least nobody else in the world needs to". That is not a particularly convincing argument.
no, i am far not the only user with that usecases around me
that's it - AND NO - there is no business try to pack every php thing as RPM because - as example wordpress - who the hell gains anything with a package when you have 10, 100, 200 users with their webspace and just a single location - that works for things like phpMyAdmin with a simple authentication against the database server but not for virtual webspaces - but nobody right in his mind expects that to work with RPM and/or distribution packagesUm. But weren't you just saying: "if Fedora changes to more and more recommend "pip", "gem" and "cpan" like installs instead RPM packages it is no longer a distribution over the long because that would mean finally you have a core OS and handle anything else like Microsoft or Apple - does anybody really want to go that road?"
there is a difference between an application and a webspace
So...I'm finding it difficult to understand what it is you're actually *saying* here
if you don't understand the difference between applications fro a single machiens and webspaces running similar applications fro 100, 200, 300, 1000 instances then it may be difficult
one thing is the operating system the other things are userdata and a webspace is clearly userdata
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