Am 14.09.2015 um 20:31 schrieb Gerald Henriksen:
On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 12:45:13 +0200, you wrote:if Fedora changes to more and more recommend "pip", "gem" and "cpan" like installs instead RPM packages it is no longer a distribution over the long because that would mean finally you have a core OS and handle anything else like Microsoft or Apple - does anybody really want to go that road?It's not a case of whether anyone here wants to go down that road or not, because we are already there. There is a reason that the Atomic / CoreOS idea combined with Docker is gaining traction, and it is because it deals with the reality of dealing with software whose dependencies don't work in the traditional distribution world
so i don't live in the real world?there are just two pieces of software on my machines not from the fedora rpm repos and i am fure sure a heavy user doing a ton of things you hardly find somebody doing them all in one person
it's simple: crap which "dependencies don't work in the traditional distribution world" was not useda nd will not be used and i talk for around 800 customers uing our servcies based on Fedora
____________________ * VMware Workstation * Zend Studio (running with openjdk from Fedora)that's it - AND NO - there is no business try to pack every php thing as RPM because - as example wordpress - who the hell gains anything with a package when you have 10, 100, 200 users with their webspace and just a single location - that works for things like phpMyAdmin with a simple authentication against the database server but not for virtual webspaces - but nobody right in his mind expects that to work with RPM and/or distribution packages
AND NO - don't tell me "the world now works that way everywhere" - i here the same bullshit "anybody is using mobile devices" for years now and i can't hear it any longer - not as main device for serious things and that won't change
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