On Thu, 2015-09-10 at 12:58 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On Thu, 2015-09-10 at 11:02 -0500, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > <snip> > > > > > > > "SG" == Stephen Gallagher <sgallagh@xxxxxxxxxx> writes: > > SG> If they can't get that software from Fedora, they *will* get it > > from > > SG> another source (or use a different OS that doesn't get in their > > SG> way). > > > > Exactly. Let's ship binary drivers. > > > > I know that's something of a straw man, but my point is that we > > must > > have some principles, and must work with upstreams to attempt to > > get > > them to at least understand those principles. And we shouldn't > > give > > up > > on that just because someone wants some program which is easily > > provided > > by a copr anyway. > > > > > Binary drivers are a different problem. We don't ship those because > there are *legal* concerns preventing it. Kernel modules are kind of a grey area because there are differing opinions on their legality in re the GPL, but in general terms, it's not correct to say we don't include non-free software for *legal* reasons. There are plenty of non-free-but-legally-redistributable things, e.g. Flash. We have always been clear that we disallow non- free software unconditionally for *philosophical*, not *legal*, reasons. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct