Re: package-cleanup after F21

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Am 11.08.2015 um 21:22 schrieb Michael Schwendt:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 20:22:59 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:

* package-cleanup don't work

First time you say that.

"package-cleanup --leaves" here certainly prints that lame warning
about being a deprecated tool, but it's still available and finds 84
leaves on Rawhide (such as 43 -debuginfo packages and 33 -devel
packages).

well, *i swear* "package-cleanup --leaves --all" did not output anything except the deperation warning after upgrade and reboot

now it lists packages - interesting

* "dnf autoremove" is not a working replacement

maybe you just did not understand "People usually ask for working
things" by miss the context "whether the replacements works or is
broken, that's not what you had asked"

Well, you specifically asked for what the dnf-developers expect
users to run for doing cleanups. That's what the yum2dnf man page
answers. Whether their replacements all work flawlessly yet,
really has not been the original question.

they can't seriously expect replace a car by a bike
"autoremove" is not dnf specific and works completly different

what scares me is that DNF was introduced in F22 with all the stupidity renaming instead just keep the name and raise the major version as it was promised at the very first begin of the story and now a release later there are still a ton of things are not there

where i work we call a replacement so when it has the same capabilities and semantics and until that happened we don't replace things

no, don't come with the "it's free software" because the replace every few months things with half baken other things and permanently changing semantics is the main reason people don't switch to Linux - frankly, i can't recommend anybody switch from Windows to fedora when i know that after people learned how to deal with the system needless, user visible changes are introduced

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