----- Original Message ----- > On 18.6.2015 13:14, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> On 12.06.2015 19:00, Matthew Miller wrote: > >>> On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 11:53:32AM -0500, Dan Williams wrote: > >>>> Yeah, we did. From my recollection, most of that focused on the unbound > >>>> parts and how NM could add the dns=unbound stuff (which Pavel > >>>> contributed) but less on the NM connectivity checking, becuase Fedora > >>>> hadn't turned that on by default yet. I'm all fine with dns=unbound, > >>>> that's not the issue. The issue is more around what happens with NM's > >>>> connectivity checking, since that's used by quite a few clients, > >>>> including GNOME Shell. > >>> > >>> I personally find the anchor icon very confusing. As a non-expert in > >>> this area, it doesn't represent anything which seems relevant to me, > >>> and all of the right click menu options, once I figured out to right > >>> click, are obscure to me. > >> > >> I plan to contact the GNOME folks about how they would be willing to > >> better integrate the panel (most probably in a different form) into GNOME. > > > > I don't think we want to integrate one more panel applet. The information > > about > > the DNS security should be passed on from NetworkManager. Once that's > > figured > > out, we can discuss how to show that information. > > > > The code needs to integrate with various NetworkManager features, such as > > The code already integrates with VPNs. > > > VPNs and connectivity checking. Adding any UI for network information > > provided > > via a side-channel would be premature. > > Could you elaborate how/why is the source of information tied to the UI? > > I suspect that networkd and others might not be very happy if the > NetworkManager has to be available just to pass the information from whatever > tool doing the actual job to the UI. networkd isn't supported as a backend for WorkStation (no gnome-shell, or gnome-control-center integration). And systemd doesn't like its internal services depending on third-party services. So you'd most likely have to talk directly to your DNSSEC service to get the information. > Could you please explain how can we do that in environments without > NetworkManager? Front-ends would talk directly to your service. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct