On 12.06.2015 19:00, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 11:53:32AM -0500, Dan Williams wrote: >> Yeah, we did. From my recollection, most of that focused on the unbound >> parts and how NM could add the dns=unbound stuff (which Pavel >> contributed) but less on the NM connectivity checking, becuase Fedora >> hadn't turned that on by default yet. I'm all fine with dns=unbound, >> that's not the issue. The issue is more around what happens with NM's >> connectivity checking, since that's used by quite a few clients, >> including GNOME Shell. > > I personally find the anchor icon very confusing. As a non-expert in > this area, it doesn't represent anything which seems relevant to me, > and all of the right click menu options, once I figured out to right > click, are obscure to me. I plan to contact the GNOME folks about how they would be willing to better integrate the panel (most probably in a different form) into GNOME. > I understand "Hotspot sign-on" and can go from there, but I can't see > it not completely perplexing e.g. my dad. I agree that something like "insecure mode" would be more self-explanatory. > I don't know what "Reprobe" does (and especially not because there's no > context other than the anchor), and "Probe Results" give some > indication that it has to do with DNSSEC — but I think that if our > users have to learn what that means and understand all that in order to > be secure (or just to browse the web at _any_ level), we're not > succeeding. > > I hope we can get a design for this which integrates better with GNOME > Shell and the existing network icon there. I hope too. Regards, Tomas -- Tomas Hozza Software Engineer - EMEA ENG Developer Experience PGP: 1D9F3C2D Red Hat Inc. http://cz.redhat.com -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct