Re: F23 System Wide Change: Default Local DNS Resolver

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On 18.6.2015 13:14, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
>> On 12.06.2015 19:00, Matthew Miller wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 11:53:32AM -0500, Dan Williams wrote:
>>>> Yeah, we did.  From my recollection, most of that focused on the unbound
>>>> parts and how NM could add the dns=unbound stuff (which Pavel
>>>> contributed) but less on the NM connectivity checking, becuase Fedora
>>>> hadn't turned that on by default yet.  I'm all fine with dns=unbound,
>>>> that's not the issue.  The issue is more around what happens with NM's
>>>> connectivity checking, since that's used by quite a few clients,
>>>> including GNOME Shell.
>>>
>>> I personally find the anchor icon very confusing. As a non-expert in
>>> this area, it doesn't represent anything which seems relevant to me,
>>> and all of the right click menu options, once I figured out to right
>>> click, are obscure to me.
>>
>> I plan to contact the GNOME folks about how they would be willing to
>> better integrate the panel (most probably in a different form) into GNOME.
> 
> I don't think we want to integrate one more panel applet. The information about
> the DNS security should be passed on from NetworkManager. Once that's figured
> out, we can discuss how to show that information.
> 
> The code needs to integrate with various NetworkManager features, such as

The code already integrates with VPNs.

> VPNs and connectivity checking. Adding any UI for network information provided
> via a side-channel would be premature.

Could you elaborate how/why is the source of information tied to the UI?

I suspect that networkd and others might not be very happy if the
NetworkManager has to be available just to pass the information from whatever
tool doing the actual job to the UI.

Could you please explain how can we do that in environments without
NetworkManager?

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