On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 20:20:36 -0500, "Matthew Miller" <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxx> said: > Try this in FC3: > > 1) add yourself to the 'wheel' group > 2) add the line "UGROUPS=wheel" to each file in > /etc/sysconfig/console.apps > > Now, you have sudo-like access to all of these programs -- you need to > authenticate, but with your own password, not the root password. And for > sudo itself, of course, uncomment the "%wheel ALL=(ALL) ALL" line in > /etc/sudoers. > > For BU Linux, we do this by default, and I've patched system-config-users > to > include an easy way to add wheel group membership (and made it display in > its own column in the normal view, so it's obvious who's got it). This sounds like a very useful setup. When documenting this-requires-root commands I ended up using the format su -c 'command' because I can't assume that sudo is in place, and I didn't want the reader to have to think about logging in as root. Since su and sudo aren't exposed in the graphical interface or explained in a well-known document ATM, it's probable that a lot of new users will login as root to perform admin tasks unless/until they happen on something that gives them clues. FWIW, there is also a 'sys' group for CUPS. In the default Fedora config only members of that group can use the admin functions of the Web interface. > Furthermore, we set it up so all mail destined for root is sent to > members > of 'wheel', to increase the chances of it actually being seen by a human. This would also be really useful. I've never seen any documentation that tells new users to alias root to get status mails. I suspect that many users don't know that these features exist. -- Stuart Ellis s.ellis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx