Hi > People should get in the habit of using sudo > wherever possible instead > of opening a root shell. how about encouraging that concept by default with a setup similar to Mac OS X or ubuntu. I have used both and it really makes sense for desktop users. since fedora isnt targetted towards mission critical environments its more likely used as a desktop ===== Regards Rahul Sundaram __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Dress up your holiday email, Hollywood style. Learn more. http://celebrity.mail.yahoo.com