On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 18:11:38 +0100 Lennart Poettering <mzerqung@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Fri, 20.02.15 11:04, Dennis Gilmore (dennis@xxxxxxxx) wrote: > > > On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:36:17 +0100 > > Lennart Poettering <mzerqung@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 20.02.15 16:24, Peter Robinson (pbrobinson@xxxxxxxxx) > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> > Sorry for the inconvenience and feel free to add bugs to > > > > >> > the tracker, which are caused by systemd changes and have > > > > >> > to be fixed in other components. > > > > >> > > > > >> Are you going to start notifying deve@ of upcoming changes > > > > >> that may impact other areas of the distro too rather than > > > > >> just land them without notification or discussion? > > > > > > > > > > Oh god, stop this, will you? > > > > > > > > No, I mean the above in general for general changes you make > > > > that affect the distro as a whole. You generally land them > > > > without notification. > > > > > > I "generally" do that? Can you be more precise? > > > > A recent example, systemd decided that os-release needed to be moved > > to /usr/lib/ I did not see any notification on devel@ nor was i > > contacted directly. the first I heard of it was a third party person > > filing a bug against fedora-release > > While moving it is great, it's not really that important to move it. > > I mean, moving it is useful in the context of stateless systems that > can boot up with empty /etc. However, Fedora is so far away from that, > that we have tons of other things to fix first, before the os-release > move would start to matter. > > We haven't posted a feature to make Fedora stateless in this sense, > and hence also didn't ask for /etc/os-release to be moved. There are > some upstream things to work on before we can propose such a Fedora > change. > > So, thank you very much for moving it! But this is neither a change > that would really need coordination, nor something we pushed for from > our side. communication would have avoided some of the discussion in https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1149568 and likely avoided having the bug altogether. regardless of your reasons for making a change or how unimportant you consider it, others follow things that are done and follow up on them when you do not. I for one would appreciate knowing when the allowable fields change in os-release because the first I ever hear is when people file bugs asking for them to be added to Fedora. I then have to chase things down to catch up. Dennis -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct