Re: systemd-219 issues with 22 and Rawhide composes

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On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 18:12:29 +0100
Lennart Poettering <mzerqung@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On Fri, 20.02.15 11:07, Dennis Gilmore (dennis@xxxxxxxx) wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 11:04:13 -0600
> > Dennis Gilmore <dennis@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:36:17 +0100
> > > Lennart Poettering <mzerqung@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Fri, 20.02.15 16:24, Peter Robinson (pbrobinson@xxxxxxxxx)
> > > > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > >> > Sorry for the inconvenience and feel free to add bugs to
> > > > > >> > the tracker, which are caused by systemd changes and
> > > > > >> > have to be fixed in other components.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Are you going to start notifying deve@ of upcoming changes
> > > > > >> that may impact other areas of the distro too rather than
> > > > > >> just land them without notification or discussion?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Oh god, stop this, will you?
> > > > > 
> > > > > No, I mean the above in general for general changes you make
> > > > > that affect the distro as a whole. You generally land them
> > > > > without notification.
> > > > 
> > > > I "generally" do that? Can you be more precise?
> > > 
> > > A recent example, systemd decided that os-release needed to be
> > > moved to /usr/lib/ I did not see any notification on devel@ nor
> > > was i contacted directly. the first I heard of it was a third
> > > party person filing a bug against fedora-release
> > 
> > I should add that changing it broke the compose process and was
> > quickly fixed. wider communication means that other effected
> > components have some visibility into things that may effect them.
> 
> You cannot really blame me for breakages for things I neither asked
> for nor was involved with at all in Fedora.
> 
> Lennart
> 

I am not blaming you for anything here, merely pointing out that if
there was better communications we could have likely avoided the
breakage while the change was made altogether.

Dennis
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