On Fri, 2015-01-30 at 04:44 -0500, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > > On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 09:39:28 -0500 (EST) > > Bohuslav Kabrda <bkabrda@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > So if more minimal is minimal buildroot, then we can achieve that, > > > since it only has python-libs because of gdb and gdb can be rebuilt > > > with Python 3 (upstream source is compatible). If that means minimal > > > cloud image, then we can do it (we're waiting for the cloud-init > > > folks to accept the py3 patches, which should happen any time now). > > > If that means content from fedora-live-base.ks, then we can do pretty > > > much everything, except of samba (I think) - and Petr Viktorin is > > > doing some talking to people to get rid of samba from this config, > > > because it seems to be unnecessary there. > > > > ok. So, perhaps we should have a change around this for f22, but it > > should be: Python 3 migration improvements or something, not > > 'default' ? > > Yeah, as noted by Stephen Smoogen, I think the problem is communication > here. Judging from reactions of people who I talked to, everyone takes > it as "FESCo thinks that Python 3 is not ready and not the way to go > right now". That's also what I thought when I read simple "defer this > to F23". After these conversations here I'm starting to understand that > this is not a message that FESCo meant to send. "Python 3 migration > improvements" sounds about right to me and seems to send a better > message than just deferring to F23. Can someone from FESCo comment on > this? If this sounds ok, shall I create a change page for it? With my FESCo hat on: Yes, what we meant was that the page *as written* didn't look achievable for Fedora 23. I can't speak for all of FESCo, but if you wanted to revise that change as "Fedora 22 Python 3 Migration Improvements" (or "progress", etc.) and revise the expectations, I'd have no problems with that. Or with approving it late, since effectively FESCo did send it back for revisions after it was submitted.
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