> While I think you are right in some cases like cashier, isn't this > discussion really about the Fedora Workstation?! Since for this the > target user is a developer, can we just agree that in this case the user > needs both CLI and GUI apps (although some developers certainly sticks > to one of them). The gist is that * Nobody _should_ need to use a terminal: non-developers¹ don’t need it, and developers deserve a better environment. It’s “only” a matter of writing lots of new software. AFAICT Workstation would in some ideal future want to get to this state. (And non-Linux operating systems are getting closer and closer to this ideal over time.) * _Currently_ most Linux developers do need to use a terminal. So there is no right answer, only a trade-off: Make terminal usage discouraged and difficult for current users, and hopefully get better non-terminal environment in the future, or make terminal usage easy and the generally recommended way, and give up hope on the developer UI significantly improving for the future users. Mirek ¹ Again considering shell scripts and pipelines as “development”. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct