On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 8:28 PM, Stephen John Smoogen <smooge@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On 28 December 2014 at 17:32, Ralf Corsepius <rc040203@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> On 12/29/2014 12:58 AM, Michael Catanzaro wrote: >>> >>> On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Alec Leamas <leamas.alec@xxxxxxxxx> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hm... developers which never touches the terminal?! Seems like a >>>> really narrow group (?) >>> >>> >>> Not really. At a previous workplace, we used two different IDEs for the >>> two programming languages we needed to work with, and wrote GUI apps to >>> handle whatever we might otherwise need a terminal to handle. >> >> Maybe it's my age which gradually going to show, but I would not call >> these people "developers" but would call these folks "IDE-operators". >> > > It is your age, and there has been nothing gradual about it.. Look the world > has moved a lot in the last 30 years, and we have gone past the point where > current developers are humouring us old folk for making jokes about > IDE-operators. It is not a joke as much as a "wow those people are pathetic" > in the same way when we were younger and wondered why "old" people still > wore double polyester flare bottom pants in the late 1980's. >From 1984 to 2001 there was a rather popular platform that didn't have a CLI. It wasn't hidden, it simply didn't exist. Its replacement has a terminal application, but the developer CLI tools are an optional installation, it remains predominately a GUI development environment. So I don't think it's an age thing, but rather a lack of awareness of the historical and current state of software development in the wider world. Developers have been developing software without CLIs for a long time. -- Chris Murphy -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct