Re: Ramblings and questions regarding Fedora, but stemming from gnome-software and desktop environments

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Aleksandar Kurtakov <akurtako@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote on Sun, 4 Jan 2015 02:55:17 -0500 (EST):
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From: "Hedayat Vatankhah" <hedayat.fwd@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" <devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, January 2, 2015 11:15:58 PM
Subject: Re: Ramblings and questions regarding Fedora,	but stemming from gnome-software and desktop environments

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GNOME Software is not that useful for a developer. As Rechard himself said,
he'll need a package manager anyway. So, If Workstation product really
targets developers, specially the ones who don't want to use terminal, it
MUST include a graphical package manager.

There are developers unaware of the concept of package manager which does not
help. Gnome Software is actually useful once the add-ons functionality is
fully expanded on applications. Works need to be done allowing a seamless
integration.
Add-ons cannot cover development libraries, unless every library is an add-on
for all IDEs!
It can be done dynamic aka install devel packages on request by IDEs - see https://rgrunber.fedorapeople.org/eclipse_packagekit_1.ogv 
It's great, but it is not address my concerns, because:
1) If its going to be the only method for installing -devel packages, it should always work: it should be able to install a missing library or header file (consider a makefile only project). Also, not everybody uses correct package name in their configure script, some people use corresponding Debian package name (with a lib prefix and even sometimes full debian package name: libfoo-dev); so partial/non-exact matching should be also implemented.

2) More importantly, it doesn't address my main concern at all: what if I want to create a new project, and I'm looking for a good XML library, or would like to see what Fedora has to offer in this area? Even if I've found a great library in Internet, I should create a test in my configure/cmake checks for that library and see if PK will find it. It doesn't look like a user friendly way to search for a development library! It's a workaround around a missing UI.

Looking for development libraries, see their ranking and even reading user's reviews is all completely useful for a developer, which aligns perfectly with what Software offers for applications.

Regards,
Hedayat




Alexander Kurtakov
Red Hat Eclipse team


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