On 12/29/2014 04:28 AM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
On 28 December 2014 at 17:32, Ralf Corsepius <rc040203@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:rc040203@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: On 12/29/2014 12:58 AM, Michael Catanzaro wrote: On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Alec Leamas <leamas.alec@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:leamas.alec@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote: Hm... developers which never touches the terminal?! Seems like a really narrow group (?) Not really. At a previous workplace, we used two different IDEs for the two programming languages we needed to work with, and wrote GUI apps to handle whatever we might otherwise need a terminal to handle. Maybe it's my age which gradually going to show, but I would not call these people "developers" but would call these folks "IDE-operators". It is your age, and there has been nothing gradual about it.. Look the world has moved a lot in the last 30 years, and we have gone past the point where current developers are humouring us old folk for making jokes about IDE-operators.
I am well aware this is what these people believe in and what marketing folks are spreading to hype their tools. To me IDEs are "just tools" - Additional tools, additional to terminals and editors.
I.e. a Linux distro, which is not supporting terminals/editors as part of a "developer oriented distro" has not done its homework. I'd even go one step further: Developing under Red Hat's default desktop (Gnome3) is impossible without an IDE.
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