Re: F21 Self Contained Change: Docker Cloud Image

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Heads-up: The name of this proposed change (and the therein proposed
product) has been changed to Atomic Cloud Image. The wiki page has
therefore been moved accordingly (now at [0]) and the proposal text
been updated accordingly (i.e. mostly s/Docker Cloud Image/Atomic
Cloud Image/ - see [1]). The following note has also been added,
copy-pasted here for everyone's reference:

Update (2014-05-20): The Cloud WG has decided that this product should
follow the Project Atomic efforts closely. Therefore, it will be
called Atomic Cloud Image instead of the originally proposed Docker
Cloud Image. Furthermore, we decided in favor of rpm-ostree and
min-cloud-agent (formerly known as min-metadata-service), and to
remove yum/dnf and python from the image. That rpm-ostree works has
already been proven by Project Atomic with their F20-based customized
cloud image. Should min-cloud-agent not be ready in time, we plan to
simply fall back to cloud-init which is still being used in the other
cloud images.

-- Sandro

[0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Atomic_Cloud_Image
[1] https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Changes%2FAtomic_Cloud_Image&diff=378455&oldid=377654

On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 9:35 PM, Jaroslav Reznik <jreznik@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> = Proposed Self Contained Change: Docker Cloud Image =
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Docker_Cloud_Image
>
> Change owner(s): Cloud SIG / Sandro Mathys <red@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> New Fedora product: Fedora Docker Cloud Image - Docker host ready to go.
>
> == Detailed Description ==
> Fedora Cloud agreed to make a base image plus several tailored to specific
> purposes. This is one of the tailored ones — Docker host ready to go. While
> basically that simply means only just adding docker-io to the base image, this
> is (also) intended to be our response to CoreOS. Therefore, depending on
> further discussion and user input, we might also add etcd [1] and fleet [2] to
> the mix.
>
> Furthermore, the Cloud SIG considers this their most radical image, riding the
> very front of the leading edge. (Yeehaw!) Several approaches (read: bonus
> objectives) are under consideration but not crucial to the product itself:
>
> * Fedora Atomic Initiative [3] (aka rpm-ostree) to allow for atomic updates.
> We might further choose to remove yum/dnf from the image in favor of ostree.
> * Replace cloud-init with min-metadata-service, CoreOS' cloud-init or other
> alternatives. We'd like to find a leaner solution (read: less Requires) and
> one that is better (or easier) tailored to Fedora.
> * Remove Python from this image to reduce the footprint. Note, that this can
> only be achieved if yum/dnf AND cloud-init are replaced by other solutions as
> explained in the above points.
>
> It should be noted that most of these tools are currently under heavy
> construction but might be ready in time. If they are, it's still up to
> discussion whether they will be included. If they aren't, we might punt them
> to F22 or later. Either way, they won't impact the completion of this change's
> main goals and are only listed for completeness' sake.
>
> == Scope ==
> * Proposal owners: Regarding the core objective, it's just about creating a
> new kickstart file (probably even %include-ing the base one) add some minor
> stuff and make sure it gets built into a new image. Also, for added security,
> we'd like to see Docker and SELinux integrate better. There's already work
> going on about this.
> ** The bonus objectives (i.e. leading edge approaches) further require:
> *** ostree to work with SELinux
> *** Creating a filesystem tree for ostree that equals the filesystem of the
> image as created by traditional means
> *** min-metadata-service to gain the ability to execute scripts just like
> cloud-init does
> *** CoreOS' cloud-init or other alternatives to be packages (and possibly
> tailored) for Fedora
>
> * Other developers: N/A (not a System Wide Change)
> * Release engineering: N/A (not a System Wide Change)
> * Policies and guidelines: N/A (not a System Wide Change)
>
> [1] https://github.com/coreos/etcd
> [2] https://github.com/coreos/fleet
> [3] http://rpm-ostree.cloud.fedoraproject.org/
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