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On 05/20/2014 12:47 PM, Jaroslav Reznik
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----- Original Message -----= Proposed System Wide Change: cron to systemd time units = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/cron-to-systemd-time-units Change owner(s): Jóhann B. Guðmundsson <johannbg AT gmail DOT com> Fix dependency on crontab in packages containing cron jobs as well as migrate cron jobs that are applicable to native systemd timer units.This change (as proposed here) is discontinued as Jóhann announced his intention to leave the project. The same applies for Sys V to systemd unit migration feature that spawns through several releases. Thanks for you work on it! Both changes are free to pick up. Apparently he forgot to mention the retraction of the sys V to systemd proposal in this mail as well as qoute my reason I guess somethings are two hard " Greeting Jaroslav With regrets I must say I feel we have grown so fat we are about to collapse under our own weight but instead of properly start dealing with that within the project, people chose to ignore that fact but instead chose to force some future vision of RHEL 8 upon the project under the names of .next, products and wg's and constantly attack the solid ground what our foundations have stood for and their meaning all those years and embark on multiproduct releases based on wrong fundamental assumption, without statistical backing up of what they considered being the underlying cause for some of their assumptions and without thoroughly thinking things through what needs to be done before being able to do that as well as the fact we lack the necessary community infrastructure and workflows being in place to remotely being able to achieve delivering multiple products in a useful and efficient manner based on the resources we have in the project. And as WG's slowy turn into tiny little empires fighting amongst themselves for components directions and maintenance while the owners of those components are scratching their head still trying to figure how the .next,product and wg proposal affects them, their maintenance and where they general fit into that future vision or simply are ignoring it which inevitably will result in them suddenly finding themselves being slapped by reality and waking up from their slumber when it finally does hit them. Unfortunately I'm not seeing much future or vision in Fedora and it's direction anymore and the fact is that I'm failing to convey what needs to be fixed in any useful and meaningful way and manner, with the end result being that I'm not being heard and at the same time being powerless in fixing things that need fixing within the community. makes me part of the problem not the solution for the project and those that still believe in it and the direction it is taking. Thus I here by official request the withdrawal of both of my features, sys V to systemd migration as well cron to timer migration where applicable due to how those processes have been handled by FPC and FESCo and their members and their expectation as well as the fact that envision of Fedora all those what 8+ years is proving to be the boulevard of broken dreams of what I hoped we could accomplish and achieve together as an community under the naive and false assumption that Fedora was a community sponsored project not community corporate owned one. My withdrawal should allow for those willing to continue with systemd migration and integration within the project submit *new proposal* to the feature process tailored to the expected and wanting of FESCo and FPC and continue the work that I'm leaving behind which is roughly above 1000 man hours by my estimations to properly integrate these things into the distribution. Best regards Jóhann B." Good luck with either Matt or Stephen as your new project leaders JBG |
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