Re: F21 System Wide Change: Smaller Cloud Image Footprint

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2014-04-17 22:27 GMT+02:00 Miloslav Trmač <mitr@xxxxxxxx>:
2014-04-17 21:54 GMT+02:00 Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:

On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 09:47:21PM +0200, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
> > (NetworkManager and initscripts) and one that's available but not used by
> > default anywhere (systemd-networkd). This would simply swap the status of
> > systemd-networkd and initscripts.
> Is NetworkManager already at the *100% complete* feature parity that would
> make this possible?  (Keeping in mind that "possible" and "a good idea" are
> still not the same...)

I don't think I accept your premise here. 100% (possibly spread between
networkd and NetworkManager) would be necessary for dropping initscripts
completely, but that's not being proposed.

You were arguing that we would be going from 2 used + 1 unused systems to a different set of 2 used + 1 unused; for that to happen, users of initscripts must have somewhere to migrate to.

Writing too fast... you were actually arguing for a situation "2 used by default + 1 used but not used by default" I think.  In that case your argument is right but it's my turn to not accept your premise :)  networkd was introduced in systemd-209, and F20 ships with -208,  I.e. it has never shipped in a Fedora release, so it is not "1 used but not used by default"; it's entirely new to Fedora in F21.
   Mirek
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