On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 09:47:21PM +0200, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > > (NetworkManager and initscripts) and one that's available but not used by > > default anywhere (systemd-networkd). This would simply swap the status of > > systemd-networkd and initscripts. > Is NetworkManager already at the *100% complete* feature parity that would > make this possible? (Keeping in mind that "possible" and "a good idea" are > still not the same...) I don't think I accept your premise here. 100% (possibly spread between networkd and NetworkManager) would be necessary for dropping initscripts completely, but that's not being proposed. > > Yeah, as I've said elsewhere, I'd love to see a network unit generator > > which takes traditional ifcfg-* files as input. I think we need > > ifup/ifdown compatibility scripts, too. > Would these be prerequisites to making the change? ifup/ifdown are probably real prerequisites (some of the ec2 tools assume their presence), and an ifcfg generator a high-value nice-to-have. > > It is _largely_ the case that complex networking is done outside of the > > guests and presented to the guests as simple interfaces. Usually that's > > one device with DHCP, but there may be additional interfaces with DHCP > > or static interfaces. > Well, this particular possibility is strictly black/white—either the > completely different configuration and API is exposed, or it isn't; if > there are any alternatives to configure at all, it is exposed. Not following you. -- Matthew Miller -- Fedora Project -- <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> "Tepid change for the somewhat better!" -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct