Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall

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2014-04-15 15:59 GMT+02:00 Michael Catanzaro <mcatanzaro@xxxxxxxxx>:
On Tue, 2014-04-15 at 14:35 +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> What needs to be done to improve the firewall integration?
>
> Zbyszek

The rule in the Workstation technical spec is: "A firewall in its
default configuration may not interfere with the normal operation of
programs installed by default." [1] There's a discussion on the desktop
list beginning at [2] that has some brainstorming and explanation as to
why this would be hard.

[1]
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation/Technical_Specification#Firewall

[2]
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/desktop/2014-February/009142.html

For the benefit of keeping everything on this list:

AFAICS this discussion basically says "applications can't depend on firewalld, therefore they can't use firewalld APIs, therefore they wouldn't know whether the firewall restircts them, therefore firewalld must be removed".

The only given reason why the applications can't depend on firewalld is vague claims that the D-Bus API is somehow unusable, which is clearly false because firewall-cmd is using exactly the same API.
    Mirek
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