Adam Williamson wrote: > I think this is rather overstating the case. I certainly don't think > (and I already wrote) that it's enough to make everyone happy, but I > think it actually is what some people want. Quite a lot of people > install Ubuntu, for instance, and then add on GNOME or KDE or something > as a secondary environment to play around with: they want to have the > 'standard product' installed, and another desktop available as a kind of > alternative on top of that, or they just want to make sure they have all > the 'standard' bits installed under/alongside their chosen desktop in > case anything else is expecting them (the "platform" approach). > > Saying that "nobody" wants this, it's "madness", "totally wacky", > "almost all users are NOT going to put up with this" is going rather too > far. I think it's entirely worth the Desktop product making this > possible and I suspect quite a lot of people will use it, but I don't > think it's sufficient grounds for downgrading the spins too far in > importance or dropping them. You're misunderstanding me here. My point is NOT that it should not be POSSIBLE to add other desktops to an installed system. OF COURSE that should be possible! I have always opposed any attempts at making the different desktop environments mutually exclusive (see also NM 0.9 and BlueZ 5, where in both cases I got the plans to ship both the old and new version in such a way that the desktop environments would have conflicted with each other at RPM level blocked). My point is that it must ALSO be possible to install the preferred desktop directly, without installing GNOME first. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct