On Mon, 24.03.14 20:59, Reindl Harald (h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > Am 24.03.2014 20:27, schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: > > But certain people seem to rather want to drown Fedora in bureaucracy and vague future proposals > > and working groups instead of doing what needs to be done. > > no, certain people want to do something *useful* with their sytems and precious > time and not remove things and adopt changes with no good reason > > if you want to do worthful things go ahead as your QA job and clean systemd > especially the first one of the following list, they all hurt over months > and #1072368 comes back with the last systemd releases in Rawhide You know, Harald, with your constant complaining you are just ensuring that people will ignore whatever you say. For example, when I see a bug reported by you I put it at the very end of my TODO list, because I really don't want to deal with the constant complaints we are getting from you. You know, you are not dumb, and the stuff you post is often quite relevant to our work, but as long as you post this stuff the way you do the only thing you will achieve quickly is that we'll ignore what you say, and that you get moderated again on mailing lists like systemd-devel like you already got twice. That is a loss, since there are things in what you say that I find quite relevant. But jeesus, it's so frickin annoying to deal with you and your writings, you know that? > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1072368 > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1010572 > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=626477 > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1047148 > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1024379 Quite frankly, these all are fixed upstream, or relatively harmless things like where you'd prefer us to generate less log messages. Making such a fuss about these things is way over the top. Not a single one of these you posted is about actual functionality bugs not getting fixed upstream. Please try to understand that things like this don't get the highest priority on our TODO list. Also, you don't have the privilige of being entitled to get your own private bugs fixed immeidately, really. Yes, it would be nice if we fix them, but open source is really not just about you demanding things and we giving it to you. It's a two way street, so instead of all the negative energy you spend bitching about things, how about actually doing something really constructive, figuring out a patch or so, for the relevant things, and submitting that? Lennart -- Lennart Poettering, Red Hat -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct