On Thu, 20.03.14 18:34, Lennart Poettering (mzerqung@xxxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > Heya! > > I wonder whether it wouldn't be time to say goodbye to tcpwrappers in > Fedora. There has been a request in systemd upstream to disable support > for it by default, but I am not sure I want to do that unless we can > maybe say goodbye to it for the big picture too. I have decided now to drop all support for tcpwrap from systemd, for the next release. For those who believe that tcpd is really a good idea (yuck!) not much is lost though, they can just plug in tcpd into systemd, the way they did it with good old inetd, too, hence we are not taking anything away there, we are pretty much compatible with what inetd supported there (or actually: didn't support there). I am not going to file a feature for Fedora, to remove support for it entirely across the whole distro. I still think dropping it is the right thing to do, but I don't think it's a good use of my own time, to fight this through... I'd be happy though if somebody else would pick this up. Looking at the current FESCO members I am not entirely sure though whether a proposal to disable libwrap would have a chance in the current cycle though. (also, M. Miller kinda supported the proposal, which as history tells us means he probably is _not_ going to vote for it in the end...) It's a pity though that nobody in Fedora is actively working on getting rid of legacy cruft. I really wished we had some people who oversee deprecating things more proactively, figure out how to deprecate things, write stub code to provide smooth transitions, write release notes and so on. Being at the bleeding edge of things also means deciding that some things really should go, from time to time... Besides deprecating old cruft like libwrap, this would also mean removing all the old crap from comps "standard" that we still install by default (894110)... Lennart -- Lennart Poettering, Red Hat -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct