On Mar 7, 2014, at 10:04 AM, Orion Poplawski <orion@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 03/07/2014 09:10 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: >> >> On Mar 7, 2014, at 6:31 AM, Josh Boyer <jwboyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 6:52 PM, Chris Murphy <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>> On Mar 6, 2014, at 4:27 PM, Orion Poplawski <orion@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>>>> Other developers: OS Installer Support for LVM Thin Provisioning >>>>>> Release engineering: N/A (not a System Wide Change) >>>>>> Policies and guidelines: N/A (not a System Wide Change) >>>>>> >>>>>> [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/InstallerLVMThinProvisioningSupport >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I this project dead? I'm casting about to tools to manage lvm snapshots and roller-derby sounded promising. Any other tools out there? > >> >> Orion didn't mention /home, and Roller Derby doesn't directly address it either. Both yum-plugin-fs-snapshot and snapper can, but snapshots coincide with system updates. More useful is a regularly timed snapshot of the user's home, .e.g. hourly with age based clean-up. > > I'm actually not that interested in tying in with yum updates etc. I'm just looking for a tool that might help with managing LVM snapshots in general - and specifically for managing snapshots of VMs. Something I could perhaps say have take a snapshot every X hours and keep the latest Y snapshots. I don't think Roller Derby applies here. Virt-manager and virsh support VM snapshots. You could schedule snapshots with a script using virsh. But I don't know that it will create LVM snapshots, and even if it did you wouldn't want it to because they're slow. There soon will be LVM thinp support in libvirt but I don't think it's there yet. Instead, use qcow2 files for this. In my "Fedora 20 installation as a benchmarking tool" tests, the fastest installs I got were Btrfs in the guest, writing into a qcow2 file with xattr +C on a Btrfs host, with the unsafe cache setting. Even plain ext4 on an LV wasn't faster. Chris Murphy -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct