Re: F20 Self Contained Change: Snapshot and Rollback Tool

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On Mar 7, 2014, at 6:31 AM, Josh Boyer <jwboyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 6:52 PM, Chris Murphy <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>> On Mar 6, 2014, at 4:27 PM, Orion Poplawski <orion@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>>>> Other developers: OS Installer Support for LVM Thin Provisioning
>>>> Release engineering: N/A (not a System Wide Change)
>>>> Policies and guidelines: N/A (not a System Wide Change)
>>>> 
>>>> [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/InstallerLVMThinProvisioningSupport
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I this project dead?  I'm casting about to tools to manage lvm snapshots and roller-derby sounded promising.  Any other tools out there?
>> 
>> There's a recent snapshot/rollback thread on the desktop list that relates to this. LVM thin provisioning support is in the Fedora 20 installer (it fails to produce a bootable system, the post-install fix for which is listed in Fedora 20 common bugs).
>> 
>> However, if OSTree is used, then there isn't a hard requirement on either LVM Thin Provisioning or Btrfs.
> 
> I don't think that's accurate.

Which part? OSTree doesn't require either LVM thinp or Btrfs. It works on plain ext4 or XFS.


>  OSTree doesn't touch /home from what I
> remember.  It is only concerned with /usr and to as minimal a degree
> as possible /etc.  People likely still want snapshot and rollback for
> their actual _data_ as well.

Orion didn't mention /home, and Roller Derby doesn't directly address it either.  Both yum-plugin-fs-snapshot and snapper can, but snapshots coincide with system updates. More useful is a regularly timed snapshot of the user's home, .e.g. hourly with age based clean-up.


Chris Murphy

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