Adam Williamson wrote: > I really don't know why you make these suggestions. I mean, you must > know no-one is going to reply "Why, Kevin! What a brilliant idea! We'll > do so immediately!", so what's the point? Why not? That's the only reply that possibly makes sense. It is very obvious that autokarma is NOT working. It is causing way more breakage than direct stable pushes (or manual pushes with "too little" karma) ever caused. If direct stable pushes (or manual pushes with "too little" karma) were so bad a problem, then how can autokarma possibly NOT be as bad a problem? This is totally illogical. It's as if airline security banned Swiss knifes, but let you board with a machine gun no questions asked. Autokarma has been a bad idea since day one. Add to that that autokarma abuse has actually INCREASED with the mandatory karma rules (making them counterproductive). But the autokarma problem has always existed, because the idea is just fundamentally flawed. The whole concept that an update is stable because an arbitrary number of testers gave it a +1 makes no sense whatsoever. Automatically pushing an update with no validation whatsoever is just suicidal. Dropping autokarma is long overdue. This is yet another incident that proves my point! Told you so, Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct