On Thu, 2014-02-20 at 12:01 -0500, Przemek Klosowski wrote: > On 02/19/2014 01:16 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Sun, 2014-02-16 at 14:38 +0000, Richard Hughes wrote: > >> On 14 February 2014 21:43, Przemek Klosowski <przemek.klosowski@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>> If we are providing a next-generation UI for installing, to replace yum > >> That's not what we're doing. > > To expand a bit: insofar as Software - the tool we're discussing here, > > and the tool to which the "require applications to ship appdata" > > requirement applies - replaces anything, it replaces gnome-packagekit. > > It is not replacing yum. > > > > The old gnome-packagekit was a 'graphical package installer', just like > > yumex and apper. The new gnome-software is (with a bit of a handwave) an > > 'application installer'. That's a difference, but it's not relevant to > > yum at all, and I doubt many people used gpk to install gcc. For those > > who really want a GUI package installer, the old gpk is still available > > in a not-installed-by-default package (though I assume Richard will > > eventually drop it), and yumex is always an option. > Thanks for the context. The reason I keep on droning about it is well > explained by the old military saying "What is worse than a bad general? > Two good generals.". I.e., it would be nice if there was one go-to > application for GUI software installation that everyone uses and > improves. As it is, we have four: yumex, gpk, apper and now Richard's, > and every one has some unique nice and/or niche features (*). It's just > a better user experience when there's one GUI installer with simple > default choice and advanced options, One app "with simple default choice and advanced options" effectively *is* two apps, uncomfortably shoehorned into one UI. You get all the disadvantages of complexity with none of the benefits of simplicity. This is why it's a model most apps have moved away from. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
