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On 02/14/2014 01:41 PM, Adam Williamson
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I see what you mean, but how do you install it, and other examples I provided? It's not just gcc:On Fri, 2014-02-14 at 13:02 -0500, Przemek Klosowski wrote:On 01/28/2014 03:12 PM, Richard Hughes wrote:On 28 January 2014 18:43, Przemek Klosowski <przemek.klosowski@xxxxxxxx> wrote:There are two separate issues here: 'abandonment', and 'GUIness'. As to the latter, I think it's a mistake to have a primary application installation tool that only deals with GUI apps, because it relegates text-based tools, such as 'units', to a second-class status of being hard to find and to install.That's not the tool we've designed and built. We've built a GUI application installer, not a package installer.While it's not the fault of the installer, I am concerned about that distinction. For better or worse, a lot of useful tools seem to be out of scope for a 'GUI application installer'. GCC, perl, git, octave, R, units, mysql/sqlite3, this kind of thing.Do you actually want to use a tool like Software to install gcc? I just can't see why you would. You know gcc is what you want. You don't need a shiny description and some screenshots and user reviews on a 1-5 star scale. 'yum install gcc' seems a massively better fit. Who would it benefit to have something like gcc in Software? it's gcc-gfortran, gcc-arm, mingw64-gcc, msp430-gcc, etc. If we are providing a next-generation UI for installing, to replace yum, I think it is a step backwards to take away the full search coverage of yum. Let's follow gmail's example: no folders, no fixed hierarchy, just good search. It took me a while to get used to it but I like it now. Maybe I am getting old and grouchy but I think it's an example of the disturbing trend to have a separate tool for every little variation of every function. Just in the last two days I had to consider: - separate installers for different types of applications - having to use all of yum check, yum-complete-transaction, package-cleanup --cleandupes, and rpm --rebuilddb on my failed update - separate droid apps for reading reddit, slashdot, hackaday, etc. Computers are supposed to simplify life! ... Heh, I see my mistake now... |
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