On Fri, 2014-02-14 at 13:02 -0500, Przemek Klosowski wrote: > On 01/28/2014 03:12 PM, Richard Hughes wrote: > > > On 28 January 2014 18:43, Przemek Klosowski <przemek.klosowski@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > There are two separate issues here: 'abandonment', and 'GUIness'. As to the > > > latter, I think it's a mistake to have a primary application installation > > > tool that only deals with GUI apps, because it relegates text-based tools, > > > such as 'units', to a second-class status of being hard to find and to > > > install. > > That's not the tool we've designed and built. We've built a GUI > > application installer, not a package installer. > [sorry fo the delayed answer---I got wrapped up and had this draft > sitting open for two weeks] > > While it's not the fault of the installer, I am concerned about that > distinction. For better or worse, a lot of useful tools seem to be out > of scope for a 'GUI application installer'. GCC, perl, git, octave, R, > units, mysql/sqlite3, this kind of thing. It doesn't even make sense > to shoehorn them into GUI app world by embedding them in terminals, > because their natural environment is command-line interaction. > > The emphasis on GUI is great, but it should enhance rather than > deprecate the old-style interactive command model that arguably is the > core idea in Unix. Your tool, while improving the GUI app experience, > could also support non GUI software---or at least not completely > ignore its existence. I do get it that there is a class of GUI users > that need to see a window with buttons and help, and non-GUI apps > simply baffle them with a blinking command prompt, at best. OTOH, I > believe there should be a setting in the installer about that, "do not > show me commandline software". I believe that it should be off by > default, but maybe I am wrong about that. > > Do you really think it's impossible? Do you actually want to use a tool like Software to install gcc? I just can't see why you would. You know gcc is what you want. You don't need a shiny description and some screenshots and user reviews on a 1-5 star scale. 'yum install gcc' seems a massively better fit. Who would it benefit to have something like gcc in Software? -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
