Hi, On 02/04/2014 12:56 PM, Richard Hughes wrote: > On 4 February 2014 11:34, Simone Caronni <negativo17@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> but what is the benefit of having them in Fedora if they can't be used without the >> proprietary blobs? > > I've always wondered the same thing. IIRC libXNVCtrl was introduced because some desktop sensors applets could use it to show gpu temperature. Specifically the gnome2 sensors applet. repoquery seems to confirm this: # repoquery -q --whatrequires libXNVCtrl hwloc-0:1.7-2.fc20.x86_64 hwloc-libs-0:1.7-2.fc20.i686 hwloc-libs-0:1.7-2.fc20.x86_64 libXNVCtrl-devel-0:169.12-9.fc20.i686 libXNVCtrl-devel-0:169.12-9.fc20.x86_64 mate-sensors-applet-0:1.6.1-1.fc20.i686 mate-sensors-applet-0:1.6.1-1.fc20.x86_64 oyranos-0:0.4.0-12.fc20.x86_64 For cases like this it seems useful to have libXNVCtrl around in Fedora to me, as it enhances existing open packages when used with the nvidia drivers. Otherwise the only way for users to get these features would be to rebuild our packages, which seems undesirable. Things like the nvidia control panel however, which can be in there own package just fine should not be in Fedora IMHO. Note I'm not saying anything about the bit-rottenness of libXNVCtrl, I'm only arguing that it can be useful to have in Fedora. Regards, Hans -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct