On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 02:22:59PM +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > On 01/30/2014 02:02 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > >On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 14:59:44 +0100 > >Johannes Lips <johannes.lips@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > >>Well, but it's not only about money and a lot of contributors use > >>their spare time to contribute, so I wouldn't stress this money thing > >>too much. > >> > >I didn't introduce the money angle, > >just putting into Common language, > >what has been inferred. > > One would think that Red Hat's community sponsorship is not a > “venture capital” or "Investment" sponsorship but that it is a > community sponsorship as it so clearly states everywhere but > apparently Red Hat looks at it that way that it "owns" the > community. >From your posts I undersetand that you believe that there is an entity "Red Hat" that has a single thought process and attitude. This is patently untrue since Red Hat is a company made up of many people and they have differing opinions. Please stop painting everyone with one brush. It's not only non-constructive but it makes it less likely over time that people interested in constructive discussion will listen or participate. It would have been nice had the conversation started with a less incendiary idea than "pay to play," but hyperbole doesn't help. Now, that being said, I can tell you from personal experience that past Boards have debated the value of Spins too, and there's nothing sacred about questioning that value. One could argue OLPC, a Fedora Remix, achieved better visibilty and prominence than any Fedora spin. A million laptops out there boot with "Fedora Remix" on their startup screen, after all -- although certainly they are aging out. Coupled with better hosting and creation options, along with solving potential legal issues, I think a community could be just as easily built (maybe more so) around a Remix. So let's not start by putting too much sacred value on the term "Spin." Rather, let's think about what specific technical and community-building problems are caused by using Remixes, how to solve them, and then consider that effort on balance against status quo. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
