----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jaroslav Reznik" <jreznik@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" <devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 1:34:45 PM > Subject: Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins > > ----- Original Message ----- > > My statements was directly targeted at the often repeated attitude on this > > list which > > seems to be that Red Hat should shut up and pay for whatever the given > > poster > > think should be payed > > for without having any expectations or requirements of the Fedora community > > in return. > > > > The relationship between Red Hat and Fedora is very different from that of > > for instance Debian and Ubuntu, > > with Red Hat being a lot more directly involved in both contributing to > > Fedora and paying for the > > general upkeep of Fedora. Personally I always felt that this symbiotic > > relationship was a big part of > > what made Fedora interesting. > > +1 and I still think it works pretty well - Red Hat has a nice space to > do work on the future RHELs in open way (not like other so called open > companies), community can contribute where there's interest. > > Btw. I'm not saying there are no issues, or sometimes more misunderstandings > that always could be resolved. > > > So in regards to the spins, which my original response didn't really try to > > address, I think they should all become remixes > > and I think we should try to build an infrastructure where doing a remix is > > as easy as possible. > > For example, in theory I think the Fedora project could provide some kind > > of > > web hosting space for the remixes, to reduce the burden/threshold > > for remix maintainers > > And we call these spins now. Not exactly, to be clear what I was talking about here was fedora providing hosting for someone to point their 'SuperDuperLinux.org' domain to. So that the remixes wouldn't need to find separate web hosting. But as I think you also refer to in your response, if we do that then there are probably similar legal restrictions put on the remixes as are currently put on the spins. > > > , but I do also see that there are legal and > > administrative reasons for why that could be a bad idea, but I am sure that > > with > > some discussion and investigation there are solutions that can be found to > > these practical challenges. > > That's one idea behind remixes - make it as easy as possible to remix Fedora > outside of Fedora space to avoid legal issues. > > Jaroslav > > > > > Christian > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "piruthiviraj natarajan" <piruthiviraj@xxxxxxxxx> > > > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > > <devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 12:29:43 PM > > > Subject: Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Christian Schaller < cschalle@xxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > What I mean to say is that Red Hat has a business motive to support the > > > Fedora community, > > > if supporting Fedora was a pure act of charity then I think organizations > > > like the Red Cross > > > or Unicef would have a much better chance of getting the money. > > > > > > So if the Fedora community wants to not care about why Red Hat invests in > > > Fedora they are of course free to do so, > > > but it becomes quite disingenuous to later be surprised if Red Hat loses > > > interest in Fedora. > > > > > > well this kind of strategy towards the community is not very inspiring > > > for > > > the new contributors, is it? > > > I think there is interest in the fedora community for Gnome as well as > > > other > > > DE which RHEL doesn't ship. > > > But since this thread has been moving in a direction where the Fedora > > > spins > > > are under threat to exist in the repos doesn't bode well for the packages > > > that is not of interest to red hat. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > devel mailing list > > > devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > > > Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct > > -- > > devel mailing list > > devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > > Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct > -- > devel mailing list > devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
