Re: Drawing lessons from fatal SELinux bug #1054350

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On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 7:35 PM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
> Am 24.01.2014 19:31, schrieb Reindl Harald:
>>
>> Am 24.01.2014 19:18, schrieb drago01:
>>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 7:12 PM, Fabian Deutsch <fabian.deutsch@xxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> Am Freitag, den 24.01.2014, 00:55 +0100 schrieb Kevin Kofler:
>>>>> it is time to analyze the fallout from the following catastrophic
>>>>> Fedora 20
>>>>> regression:
>>>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1054350
>>>>> "rpm scriptlets are exiting with status 127"
>>>>
>>>> Hey,
>>>>
>>>> can't we add a default boot entry which starts the system in permissive
>>>> mode?
>>>
>>> How would that help? If a user knows enough about the issue to try it
>>> he/she could just switch to permissive mode
>>
>> in *that* case
>>
>> in a case where a broken selinux update leads in not boot at all
>> i can not imagine what i would to besides boot with a CD/DVD/USB
>
> to be clear - *i can* edit the boot-params and put selinux=0 there
>
> the average user can't but he may remember "uhm something with selinux
> was one of the last updates"

You are assuming that the "averange user" even knows what selinux is
or reviews the list of packages for every update.
I doubt either of them is true.

>and try the however named option, keep
> in mind some people own only one machine and can't google for help

I doubt that. Most people do have multiple ways to access the internet
(multiple computers, tablets, phones, game consoles ...) it is 2014
not 1996.
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