On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 6:47 PM, Michael Catanzaro <mcatanzaro@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Tue, 2013-12-17 at 18:33 -0800, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: >> I don't think Fedora is doing its users any favors by declaring F20 to >> be released when upgrading from F19 using 'fedup --source network 20' >> is known to be broken. The bleeding-edge types can already upgrade to >> the beta. > > I'm attempting to imagine Microsoft or Apple telling users to install an > experimental, insufficiently-tested utility to perform a risky operating > system upgrade -- or even a stable, sufficiently-tested utility that is > nonetheless labeled as experimental. Huh? Quoting from https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading: "All currently supported Fedora releases, starting with Fedora 18, can be upgraded with FedUp. previous releases used PreUpgrade or the installation DVD, but users of older releases should back up their systems and perform a clean installation for best results." In fact, "[fedup] is the recommended method to upgrade your Fedora system to Fedora 18 and newer." The main get-fedora page says "Live Media can't be used to upgrade Fedora installations. Instead, you can upgrade Fedora right from your desktop. Do this by using Fedup - it will install the packages you need and upgrade your version of Fedora." Admittedly, the FedUp page says "Be sure to get the latest release, this may involve enabling updates-testing (yum --enablerepo=updates-testing install fedup in the command line)." I think this is silly. Maybe using the updates-testing version will, in general, be more reliable, but I think that the version in stable should at least be expected to work. --Andy > > -- > devel mailing list > devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct