----- Original Message ----- > From: "Manuel Faux" <manuel.faux@xxxxxxx> > To: devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 7:08:53 PM > Subject: Re: OSGi 5 Implementation > > On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 09:45:07 -0500 > Aleksandar Kurtakov <akurtako@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > I join late to the discussion but Equinox is the reference > > implementation for OSGi R5. What are the problems trying to use > > eclipse-equinox ? > Thanks, the current eclipse-equinox-osgi package works as OGSi 5 > dependency, but unfortunately it does NOT work as OSGi 4 dependency. > Building fails with some Java errors when I use the current equinox > package (which provides org.eclipse.osgi_3.9.1.v20131014-1715.jar). Equinox is R5 implementation and new major version always introduce incompatibilities so this is not surprising at all. It might be worth the effort to port to R5. > > I didn't see that Equinox satisfies the OSGi 5 part, since I didn't use > this package anymore, as soon I recognized that NetBeans does not build > with it. Is this still true? I know that jtulach(one of the netbeans guys) has his own equinox(like?) framework called Netbinox for usage in netbeans so you might want to get in contact with him for details. I haven't followed Netbeans in years but if you point to concrete problem I'll take a look. Alexander Kurtakov Red Hat Eclipse team > > Manuel > > > > http://projects.eclipse.org/projects/rt.equinox > > > > Alexander Kurtakov > > Red Hat Eclipse team > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Manuel Faux" <manuel.faux@xxxxxxx> > > > To: devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 4:31:31 PM > > > Subject: Re: OSGi 5 Implementation > > > > > > On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 12:02:07 +0100 > > > "puntogil@xxxxxxxxx" <puntogil@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > Il 11/11/2013 11:35, Manuel Faux ha scritto: > > > > > On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 11:07:55 +0100 > > > > > "puntogil@xxxxxxxxx" <puntogil@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> Il 11/11/2013 10:53, Mikolaj Izdebski ha scritto: > > > > >>> On 11/09/2013 03:25 PM, Manuel Faux wrote: > > > > >>>> I'm trying to build NetBeans 7.4 under Fedora, which > > > > >>>> requires an OSGi 5 specification. NetBeans originally ships > > > > >>>> the OSGi Alliance's specification, whose license is not > > > > >>>> compatible with Fedora, as far as I know > > > > >>>> (http://www.osgi.org/Download/Release5?info=nothanks). > > > > >>> This license is clearly non-free. > > > > > The strange thing is, that the pre-download information (the > > > > > link above) shows a quite restrictive license, but when you > > > > > actually download the file, the LICENSE file in the jar file > > > > > mentions Apache License 2.0. > > > > > > > > > >>>> Is there any OSGi 5 implementation already in Fedora's repos > > > > >>>> I can use for that purpose? All packages I checked so far > > > > >>>> only support OSGi 4 (Eclipse Equinox, JBoss OSGi, Apache > > > > >>>> Felix). > > > > >>> Not that I know. > > > > >>> > > > > >>>> I found Knopflerfish, which is a OSGi 5 platform licensed > > > > >>>> under BSD license, which would be compatible to Fedora > > > > >>>> (http://www.knopflerfish.org/). Unfortunately this package > > > > >>>> does not yet exist for Fedora. Building this package, would > > > > >>>> be kind of a plan B. > > > > >>> Knopflerfish depends on code from OSGi Alliance [1], so if > > > > >>> that code is non-free then packaging Knopflerfish itself > > > > >>> won't solve the problem. > > > > >> the main knopflerfish module no, maybe other sub-modules, > > > > >> depend on ee.minimum.jar > > > > > I'm not so deep into OSGi frameworks, but basically we just > > > > > need the framework, not even the complete service platform. To > > > > > build this framework, the ee.minimum.jar is required. Is this > > > > > the critical part > > > > the only build dep required for build this framework is > > > > objectweb-asm 3.x (the rest of the build deps are listed as > > > > comment in my spec file > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=874472) before do > > > > this assertion should be require to know what you are talking > > > > about... > > > My bad, the build.xml [2] of the Knopflerfish 5.0.0 framework > > > mentions ee.minimum.jar, even it is not necessarily required (only > > > as an extension for JDK < 7). > > > > but i think i don't want upgrade K to 5.0.0 (OSGi R5 ri/apis, > > > > already built on my system), the previous release are requires > > > > for build an use some https://github.com/ops4j/ libraries (R4 and > > > > R5 are not compatible) i apologized if my comment seem a bit hard > > > > regards > > > I think in this case a package of the framework would be sufficient, > > > since it has only a few dependencies. > > > Any complaints about this? > > > > > depending on OSGi Alliance licensed code? If yes, how is it ever > > > > > possible to get an OSGi 5 framework into a FOSS product? > > > > > > > > > >>> [1] > > > > >>> https://knopflerfish.org/svn/knopflerfish.org/trunk/osgi/ee/ee.minimum.jar > > > > >>> > > > > >> regards > > > > > Manuel > > > > > > > > > > [2] > > > https://www.knopflerfish.org/svn/knopflerfish.org/tags/5.0.0/osgi/framework/build.xml > > > > > > Manuel > > > -- > > > devel mailing list > > > devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > > > Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct > > -- > devel mailing list > devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
