I join late to the discussion but Equinox is the reference implementation for OSGi R5. What are the problems trying to use eclipse-equinox ? http://projects.eclipse.org/projects/rt.equinox Alexander Kurtakov Red Hat Eclipse team ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Manuel Faux" <manuel.faux@xxxxxxx> > To: devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 4:31:31 PM > Subject: Re: OSGi 5 Implementation > > On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 12:02:07 +0100 > "puntogil@xxxxxxxxx" <puntogil@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Il 11/11/2013 11:35, Manuel Faux ha scritto: > > > On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 11:07:55 +0100 > > > "puntogil@xxxxxxxxx" <puntogil@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > >> Il 11/11/2013 10:53, Mikolaj Izdebski ha scritto: > > >>> On 11/09/2013 03:25 PM, Manuel Faux wrote: > > >>>> I'm trying to build NetBeans 7.4 under Fedora, which requires an > > >>>> OSGi 5 specification. NetBeans originally ships the OSGi > > >>>> Alliance's specification, whose license is not compatible with > > >>>> Fedora, as far as I know > > >>>> (http://www.osgi.org/Download/Release5?info=nothanks). > > >>> This license is clearly non-free. > > > The strange thing is, that the pre-download information (the link > > > above) shows a quite restrictive license, but when you actually > > > download the file, the LICENSE file in the jar file mentions Apache > > > License 2.0. > > > > > >>>> Is there any OSGi 5 implementation already in Fedora's repos I > > >>>> can use for that purpose? All packages I checked so far only > > >>>> support OSGi 4 (Eclipse Equinox, JBoss OSGi, Apache Felix). > > >>> Not that I know. > > >>> > > >>>> I found Knopflerfish, which is a OSGi 5 platform licensed under > > >>>> BSD license, which would be compatible to Fedora > > >>>> (http://www.knopflerfish.org/). Unfortunately this package does > > >>>> not yet exist for Fedora. Building this package, would be kind of > > >>>> a plan B. > > >>> Knopflerfish depends on code from OSGi Alliance [1], so if that > > >>> code is non-free then packaging Knopflerfish itself won't solve > > >>> the problem. > > >> the main knopflerfish module no, maybe other sub-modules, depend on > > >> ee.minimum.jar > > > I'm not so deep into OSGi frameworks, but basically we just need the > > > framework, not even the complete service platform. To build this > > > framework, the ee.minimum.jar is required. Is this the critical part > > the only build dep required for build this framework is objectweb-asm > > 3.x (the rest of the build deps are listed as comment in my spec file > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=874472) > > before do this assertion should be require to know what you are > > talking about... > My bad, the build.xml [2] of the Knopflerfish 5.0.0 framework mentions > ee.minimum.jar, even it is not necessarily required (only as an > extension for JDK < 7). > > but i think i don't want upgrade K to 5.0.0 (OSGi R5 ri/apis, already > > built on my system), the previous release are requires for build an > > use some https://github.com/ops4j/ libraries (R4 and R5 are not > > compatible) i apologized if my comment seem a bit hard > > regards > I think in this case a package of the framework would be sufficient, > since it has only a few dependencies. > Any complaints about this? > > > depending on OSGi Alliance licensed code? If yes, how is it ever > > > possible to get an OSGi 5 framework into a FOSS product? > > > > > >>> [1] > > >>> https://knopflerfish.org/svn/knopflerfish.org/trunk/osgi/ee/ee.minimum.jar > > >>> > > >> regards > > > Manuel > > > > [2] > https://www.knopflerfish.org/svn/knopflerfish.org/tags/5.0.0/osgi/framework/build.xml > > Manuel > -- > devel mailing list > devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct