Re: OSGi 5 Implementation

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I join late to the discussion but Equinox is the reference implementation for OSGi R5. What are the problems trying to use eclipse-equinox ?

http://projects.eclipse.org/projects/rt.equinox

Alexander Kurtakov
Red Hat Eclipse team

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Manuel Faux" <manuel.faux@xxxxxxx>
> To: devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 4:31:31 PM
> Subject: Re: OSGi 5 Implementation
> 
> On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 12:02:07 +0100
> "puntogil@xxxxxxxxx" <puntogil@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > Il 11/11/2013 11:35, Manuel Faux ha scritto:
> > > On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 11:07:55 +0100
> > > "puntogil@xxxxxxxxx" <puntogil@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Il 11/11/2013 10:53, Mikolaj Izdebski ha scritto:
> > >>> On 11/09/2013 03:25 PM, Manuel Faux wrote:
> > >>>> I'm trying to build NetBeans 7.4 under Fedora, which requires an
> > >>>> OSGi 5 specification. NetBeans originally ships the OSGi
> > >>>> Alliance's specification, whose license is not compatible with
> > >>>> Fedora, as far as I know
> > >>>> (http://www.osgi.org/Download/Release5?info=nothanks).
> > >>> This license is clearly non-free.
> > > The strange thing is, that the pre-download information (the link
> > > above) shows a quite restrictive license, but when you actually
> > > download the file, the LICENSE file in the jar file mentions Apache
> > > License 2.0.
> > >
> > >>>> Is there any OSGi 5 implementation already in Fedora's repos I
> > >>>> can use for that purpose? All packages I checked so far only
> > >>>> support OSGi 4 (Eclipse Equinox, JBoss OSGi, Apache Felix).
> > >>> Not that I know.
> > >>>
> > >>>> I found Knopflerfish, which is a OSGi 5 platform licensed under
> > >>>> BSD license, which would be compatible to Fedora
> > >>>> (http://www.knopflerfish.org/). Unfortunately this package does
> > >>>> not yet exist for Fedora. Building this package, would be kind of
> > >>>> a plan B.
> > >>> Knopflerfish depends on code from OSGi Alliance [1], so if that
> > >>> code is non-free then packaging Knopflerfish itself won't solve
> > >>> the problem.
> > >> the main knopflerfish module no, maybe other sub-modules, depend on
> > >> ee.minimum.jar
> > > I'm not so deep into OSGi frameworks, but basically we just need the
> > > framework, not even the complete service platform. To build this
> > > framework, the ee.minimum.jar is required. Is this the critical part
> > the only build dep required for build this framework is objectweb-asm
> > 3.x (the rest of the build deps are listed as comment in my spec file
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=874472)
> > before do this assertion should be require to know what you are
> > talking about...
> My bad, the build.xml [2] of the Knopflerfish 5.0.0 framework mentions
> ee.minimum.jar, even it is not necessarily required (only as an
> extension for JDK < 7).
> > but i think i don't want upgrade K to 5.0.0 (OSGi R5 ri/apis, already
> > built on my system), the previous release are requires for build an
> > use some https://github.com/ops4j/ libraries (R4 and R5 are not
> > compatible) i apologized if my comment seem a bit hard
> > regards
> I think in this case a package of the framework would be sufficient,
> since it has only a few dependencies.
> Any complaints about this?
> > > depending on OSGi Alliance licensed code? If yes, how is it ever
> > > possible to get an OSGi 5 framework into a FOSS product?
> > >
> > >>> [1]
> > >>> https://knopflerfish.org/svn/knopflerfish.org/trunk/osgi/ee/ee.minimum.jar
> > >>>
> > >> regards
> > > Manuel
> > 
> 
> [2]
> https://www.knopflerfish.org/svn/knopflerfish.org/tags/5.0.0/osgi/framework/build.xml
> 
> Manuel
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