On 11/06/2013 05:43 AM, Jon wrote:
On Nov 4, 2013 12:01 PM, "Stephen Gallagher" <sgallagh@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:sgallagh@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 11/04/2013 11:07 AM, Phil Knirsch wrote: > > Hi everyone. > > > > A quick update from my side regarding the Base Design WG: > > > > - My proposed committee was approved by FESCO last Wednesday. One > > negative vote came from Stephen Gallagher that he would have very > > much preferred to have Lennart instead of Harald or Josh on the > > committee. > > > > To be completely clear, I said I would have preferred having Lennart > on the WG. I did not state that I thought Harald or Josh should not be > members. That's an important distinction, I think :) > > I felt strongly enough that Lennart belonged on this group that I > chose to cast a token vote, knowing that it would not affect the outcome. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.15 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ > > iEYEARECAAYFAlJ34PkACgkQeiVVYja6o6MrUwCgpYhhbnQ2eFX/c4Eb8bSAbBVs > fB4AoIKJyckoVozKnZyh03E0MfMzmpxy > =L79V > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > -- > devel mailing list > devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Howdy folks. Looking forward to getting to work on base design. Regarding the voting members I feel we have a great group. Everyone intersted (voting or not) should participate in our discussions. My vote will certainly be influenced by anyone in the community willing to participate. :-)
100% :)
One thing I would like to talk about is embedded Fedora, mostly as that is my personal area of involvement with the project. There is not an embedded working group, and it's my agenda to hopefully have the base design double as embedded. It makes sense to me in the sense that base ring-zero is sort of the embedded core into cloud, server, or workstation. By itself base would be suitable for the smallest deployment.
Thats a really good point, and one i do share as well: The Base needs to be able to serve as a starting point for every current and any potential future Fedora products. And to do so means we need to find the smallest common denominator. Of course this is just my personal opinion, and we'll discuss this among many other topics during our meetings. And last but not least in collaboration with the other WGs, as they rely on us to deliver something they can use as a, well, "Base". ;)
Another item I'd like to consider for the initial discussion is the release cycle for the base design. My feeling is that base is small enough and simple enough to allow a more frequent release, perhaps even continuously. My guess is the other WGs will have their own ideas for how frequently they output. So base WG would need to be the lowest common denominator in that way. Obviouly rel-eng and qa need to represent for this topic. :-)
Right, release cycle will definitely be a hot topic, and i'd like us to investigate different types as well, e.g. not a time based but a major feature based cycle (e.g. new upstream kernel -> new release), continuous, support time for releases, what about feature backports and so forth. Lots revolving around those topics i think.
One request i also already got was if we in the Base WG could take a look at containers/sandboxes for applications as well. Basically so that the technology could be used by any derived product built on top of Base. And as there are currently multiple competing technologies being worked on (docker.io, systemd containers, libvirt-lxc, openshift cartridges) we'd need to evaluate those and decide which one(s) we'd want to offer as a "standard" from the Base product.
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