On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 06:21:34PM -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > > So, really, it's this related point that I'm concerned about now. We _need_ > > to do these things in coordination, not just push a situation into F20 where > > we are telling our users to reboot everyday -- that's a pretty bad user > > experience. Even weekly feels like a lot. > Then change the way that updates to the released distribution are > treated. As long as we don't constrain the constant stream of barely > tested updates, we *are* pretty much forcing our users to restart their > system frequently. That's been proposed, but we need to work together to do that. There was a discussion at Flock, and particularly the QA team felt relucant. I've been thinking about this recently (I guess not completely by coincidence) and _do_ want to drive that forward... but not just by unilaterally changing parts of the system before it all works. > We will look at allowing non-offline updates of applications when we > have applications that are truly standalone and separate from the OS > itself. Where here "we" is Gnome, again? -- Matthew Miller ☁☁☁ Fedora Cloud Architect ☁☁☁ <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct