On 2 November 2013 17:47, Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I'm not really excited about a lot of required rebooting, though -- I think > that might be worse than the disease. We should have most of the information > needed to determine if a reboot is really necessary, shouldn't we? I hope we > can move to that in the future for a nicer user experience. There's no way to tell if an application can be updated on-line due to runtime loadable content and plugins. It's also impossible to do in a race-free way on a multiuser system. Quite frankly, I'm surprised online updates works as much as it does. The problem is when online update fails, you either get corrupted data and crashing application, or a hosed rpmdb. In a related point, we need to reduce the number of updates we present to the user in a massive way in a supposedly "stable" distro. Richard -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct