On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Matthias Clasen <mclasen@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Thu, 2013-10-31 at 12:13 +0100, Tim Lauridsen wrote:It is an application installer, first and foremost. Installing
> I have tested gnome-software to see the current state, compaired to
> gpk in F19, there is a lot stuff there cant be done.
>
>
> 1. You cant install backgrounds / icons
backgrounds/icons/themes is not a priority. That being said, 3.11 can
install fonts and codecs.
I know that it is an application installer, but user want to install content also
and gpk can do that, so it is a regression in my world.
gnome-software cant install extra backgrounds and icons
What menu ? And what application ?
> 2. Not all application found in the menu, can be found under
> installed, you can search for them and find them, but cant remove them
> (ex. Document viewer)
We have a notion of 'core app' - for things that 'come with the OS'. We
don't allow to uninstall those.
It feels inconsitance that i cant remove evince, but it can remove other gnome apps like boxes and documents
gnome-software dont show all installed applications
> 3. if you search for 'icons' you get at lot of wrong positives, whereSearch looks at keywords from desktop files in addition to descriptions
> there is no visible relation to icons in the text shown
and names. Would be good to see some concrete examples of the false
positives you get. I only get gnome-tweak-tool and some icon-related
font.
search in package description, but dont show it
> 4. Description is missing from almost every application.Richard has pushed very hard for getting descriptions upstream - you may
have seen his repeated posts on this topic. And we have made quite a bit
of progress. But getting every application equipped with a good
description, screenshots, and other metadata will take some time, and
some help from the packagers and maintainers of those applications.
I know Richard has pushed hard to get appdata for apps, but it do help the
end user, if lot of apps in gnome-software dont have any descriptions.
Look at System -> File Tools -> Caja-actions configuration tool
How should an end user have a clue what this app does ?
> I think the current state will make Fedora look limitted for newCompared to Ubuntu, certainly. But compared to gpk-application F19, I
> Fedora users.
don't think so.
A tool like gnome-software targets novice enduser (IMHO) and more advanced user will tools like yum, dnf or yumex
So I try to look at it like a novice end user, and they fill see a more friendly user interface, but they will not be able to find the things they are look for.
The Fedora art team has done a great job find good extra background images, but you have to use a command line to install it on the current F10 gnome desktop, I is not
a good user experiense i my book.
Personal it is not a problem for me, but I would like Fedora to be as good as possible for new users, so i took some time to install the gnome desktop and check the state of thing
and report the issues I have found.
Tim
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