On Tue, 22 Oct 2013 16:17:14 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > I would think that if we are in a situation where people who do development > don't subscribe to the devel list because of 'energy' reasons > (disillusionment, feelings of either a) pointlessness b) fait-accompli, > etc.), then just moving things to -announce is not actually solving the > problem. Isn't it similar with bugzilla.redhat.com and package maintainers not responding to the hundreds of problem reports they receive there? There even is a separate Fedora list for "glibc" these days, with seldomly many more than half a dozen messages per month: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/glibc An own list for "Zarafa", with not even a single post per month: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/zarafa/ A brand-new one for "gnome", created on Sep 17th, with no more than the custom Welcome message: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/gnome/ Not even sure how that one relates to "desktop" list, which has had its peak activity with 223 messages in March 2013, but doesn't have a description: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/desktop/ There are more examples at: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo Lists, which have been created because of too much noise and too much traffic on devel list. Devel list is the dumping ground. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct