On Tue, 15 Oct 2013 20:24:06 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 15.10.2013 20:07, schrieb Jan Kratochvil: > > This is a bug of update system it does not know if an updated service needs > > restarting or not. > > you can always point with your finger somewhere else > the better way is solve the root cause The root cause is really the update system. Why should I look for what daemon to restart by hand? It should happen automatically, it is even a security hole if nightly yum updates a daemon but its old version remains running. IIRC it is some systemd feature in development but I cannot find it now. You can always make your software development life more simple by giving up on some useful feature. That -O2 vs. -O0 build is a good comparison. > > This is a known prelink Bug: > > -y has false mismatches > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=666143 > > > > Just the evil Fedora Bugs autoclose has already closed it but it is still > > valid. I have provided even a single line fix there. > > you can always point with your finger somewhere else > the better way is solve the root cause You can always make your software development life more simple by giving up on some useful feature. That -O2 vs. -O0 build is a good comparison. > >> there are people wich shut down or suspend machines when they are not in use > >> how do you imagine the cronjob run while they are not in use for this > >> *majority* of users? > > > > These users really should uninstall prelink as they cannot use it > > if the majority should uninstall something because they can't > use it it must not be active in a default setup If the majority of Fedora users then yes. IMO Fedora is more used on servers but I really do not know the user base. > > BTW all my servers run 24x7 > > and *there* you do *not* need prelink because the theoretical gain > in faster startup does *not matter* It does matter, I run even large builds there, regression testing, besides that even web server CGIs benefit from it. "server" is a wide term. > so, and now come on and list some *real* benefits, Improved performance. > take the wasted time into account If you find software development of performance features a wasted time then I see it really does not make sense to discuss it more. > stop to defeat prelink in the default > install and agree that it has to be removed from it I do not say anything about prelink in the default install as I have no idea what is the default Fedora user. But it is a useful feature at least on servers and 24x7 running workstations. Jan -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct