On Fri, Oct 04, 2013 at 03:14:27PM +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > Why should the community participate in this when it turns out that > the the whole WG and the next proposal is nothing but an utter and > total sheninagan on RH behalf as came apparent on last FESCO meeting Jóhann, you're taking one out-of-context quote from one FESCo member, reading too much into it, and building an alarmist story around it. This is absolutely a real community process. Red Hat members of the working groups can make their merit-based cases the same way as anyone else, and if they can't show that merit to the community, they don't get a special trump card. They will have to find another way to advance their cause. You may think that this is just talk, but I promise you it isn't. Fedora provides value to Red Hat in many different ways, but genuine community voice is among the most crucial. If that voice tells us one thing and we can't listen, that's our failure, our loss -- and not what's going to happen here. It's completely fair for Red Hat -- and Red Hatters -- to talk about what directions in Fedora we think would be most beneficial to the company, and about the resources -- time, money, people, and so on -- that we could bring to bear in certain directions (and probably won't in other directions). If we clearly talk about that, and about the technical merit of directions proposed, and we can't be convincing, and can't adapt what we're proposing to become convincing... well, we have some soul-searching to do. -- Matthew Miller ☁☁☁ Fedora Cloud Architect ☁☁☁ <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
