On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 11:28 PM, David <dgboles@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 9/22/2013 5:11 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: >> On 22.09.2013 18:34, Reindl Harald wrote: >>> >>> Am 22.09.2013 18:30, schrieb Jan Kratochvil: >>>> On Sun, 22 Sep 2013 18:24:45 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: >>>>> Am 22.09.2013 18:13, schrieb Jan Kratochvil: >>>>>> My grandfather still believes those are multiple _different_ Fedora >>>>>> installations, each having different games/files. As he has also CentOS menu >>>>>> item there having multiple Fedora items is just too much for him. >>>>> >>>>> explain it to him >>>> >>>> I have tried many times for many years but he still insists on it. >>>> >>>> >>>>> * because i saw the menu from the very first beginning >>>>> * because doing nothing the next boot-step after that menu failed >>>>> * so what did i: look waht happens if i chosse something other from the menu >>>> >>>> There is never a perfect solution, everything has its pros and cons. >>> >>> yes and the chance having a unbootable system has more cons >>> >>>> So it could wait for 5 secs, just displaying a message "Hit SHIFT to display >>>> a boot menu.". That hopefully should not confuse users while it would still >>>> help you to solve your problem >>> >>> place a descriptive text *above* the menu and display it as default would >>> be the best one, but i guess pragmatic solutions edcuating users are not >>> the ones developers these days perfer >>> >>> wondering from which tress in 10 years the advanced users will fall if >>> all advanced options are more and more hidden beause the could confuse >>> somebody............ >>> >> >> Oh, come on. Not all advanced options need to be presented to anybody at >> any time. You, as advanced user, don't need all of this "advanced" >> features every time you use your system. Going back to boot menu - how >> many of your reboots are not successful so you need to choose different >> kernel or specify different options? Regular Linux user expect to boot >> system successfully every time and if it's impossible it means distro >> devels screwed up releasing untested package. It's good to have all that >> options around but presenting them to user just in case he might want to >> do something more advanced once a year is simply wrong. >> >> To educate new Linux/Fedora users, it's better to write some good >> documentation or produce high quality podcast than showing them all that >> meaningless options. >> >> >> >> Mateusz Marzantowicz >> > > > Excuse me sir. You completely missed the point here. No he didn't. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
