On 9/22/2013 5:11 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: > On 22.09.2013 18:34, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> Am 22.09.2013 18:30, schrieb Jan Kratochvil: >>> On Sun, 22 Sep 2013 18:24:45 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: >>>> Am 22.09.2013 18:13, schrieb Jan Kratochvil: >>>>> My grandfather still believes those are multiple _different_ Fedora >>>>> installations, each having different games/files. As he has also CentOS menu >>>>> item there having multiple Fedora items is just too much for him. >>>> >>>> explain it to him >>> >>> I have tried many times for many years but he still insists on it. >>> >>> >>>> * because i saw the menu from the very first beginning >>>> * because doing nothing the next boot-step after that menu failed >>>> * so what did i: look waht happens if i chosse something other from the menu >>> >>> There is never a perfect solution, everything has its pros and cons. >> >> yes and the chance having a unbootable system has more cons >> >>> So it could wait for 5 secs, just displaying a message "Hit SHIFT to display >>> a boot menu.". That hopefully should not confuse users while it would still >>> help you to solve your problem >> >> place a descriptive text *above* the menu and display it as default would >> be the best one, but i guess pragmatic solutions edcuating users are not >> the ones developers these days perfer >> >> wondering from which tress in 10 years the advanced users will fall if >> all advanced options are more and more hidden beause the could confuse >> somebody............ >> > > Oh, come on. Not all advanced options need to be presented to anybody at > any time. You, as advanced user, don't need all of this "advanced" > features every time you use your system. Going back to boot menu - how > many of your reboots are not successful so you need to choose different > kernel or specify different options? Regular Linux user expect to boot > system successfully every time and if it's impossible it means distro > devels screwed up releasing untested package. It's good to have all that > options around but presenting them to user just in case he might want to > do something more advanced once a year is simply wrong. > > To educate new Linux/Fedora users, it's better to write some good > documentation or produce high quality podcast than showing them all that > meaningless options. > > > > Mateusz Marzantowicz > Excuse me sir. You completely missed the point here. You are not doing it 'their way" -- David -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
