On Thu, 2013-08-22 at 11:09 +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: <snip> > You would just overwrite in in your own .bashrc if you have long > hostname and they get in your way. Yes, the same applies in the opposite direction. > Long hostnames are far more practical for administrators to use then > short hostnames have ever been. I disagree. As a system administrator of a small network (around 100 Fedora desktops, all on the same domain name), I'm quite happy with short hostnames. > We seriously should be trying to avoid causing unnecessary confusion to > administrator by using short hostnames by default and if you are on a > large network you end up with the exact same problem as I mentioned earlier, And I think you've hit the problem right on the head right here. *If* you're on a large network with more than one domain name, then long hostnames make sense. But if *not*, they just waste space. If I understand you right, you're arguing that large networks are a big enough part of our target audience that long hostnames should be the default. I'm arguing that we should give long hostnames to spins/groups that target large networks (i.e. if you install the "Cloud Infrastructure" group, you get long hostnames by default), but leave the default for most spins as short hostnames. Jonathan -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct