Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-08-14)

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Am 15.08.2013 18:19, schrieb Kaleb KEITHLEY:
> On 08/15/2013 11:32 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>>>> Am 15.08.2013 15:40, schrieb Paul Wouters:
>>>>>> We can't tell people to re-install from scratch every 6 months.
>>>>>> What we need is an "apt-get dist-upgrade" equivalent.
>>>>>
>>>>> *we have*
>>>>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum
>>>>>
>>>>> i currently count 450 dist-upgrade this way and the oldest
>>>>> setups are upgraded from Fedora 9 to Fedora 18 - the only
>>>>> stupid is that instead spend more effort in the yum-upgrades
>>>>> waste all the time with preupgrade/fedup and whatever the
>>>>> next inkarnation is known
>>>>
>>> And yet another issue is the fedora-distribution occasionally carrying packages
>>> with greater NEVRs in older releases than in newer release.
>>
>> what does *not* matter in case of "yum distro-sync" because it does also
>
> It seemed to matter yesterday when I tried to update a Fedora 19 vm to rawhide

what exactly was the unsolveable problem you could not fix before reboot?

and according to the message below how do someone imagine fedup
could solve the specific problem without manual intervention?

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Betreff: Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-08-14)
Datum: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 09:37:57 -0600
Von: Kevin Fenzi <kevin@xxxxxxxxx>

> besides the fact that yum-upgrades are most times better
> yum is used and tested every single day from thousands
> of users while "fedup" no normal user touchs half a year

You misunderstand how fedup works.

It gathers up the packages you will need to do the upgrade, then
reboots into a very minimal env and uses yum to do the upgrade

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