On Fri, 2013-07-26 at 12:22 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > Well, *users* should not really notice or care where these things are > unless they go looking for them. All a user cares about is whether > they can authenticate and have access to their SSO credentials after > doing so. > > Moving this location around really impacts only packagers and certain > developers, which is a different audience (and one that's usually more > accepting of change, provided that the benefits are clearly > communicated). In this case, we've gone from "Ugly, works most of the > time but very fragile" (/tmp) to "When it works, it's nearly perfect, > but it is broken for some very important use-cases" (/run/user/UID) > and now we're trying for "Works for everyone without the fragility of > the original approach." (/run/kerberos/UID) > > The middle step was necessary - I think - in order to get us to the > place we really wanted to be. I agree with Simo that it would be nice > to have a solution that could solve all problems for every subsystem, > but at the moment we really need to fix this one because it's causing > problems for a lot of people. > > Also, there's no guarantee that a perfect solution for other > subsystems will ever actually show up. It may be that each > service/application will have its own needs that have to be met > separately. We can investigate this, but I don't think it should hold > up the short-term fix. > > Also, Tomas, you stated: "I'd rather like to see a plan that would fix > also other similar uses off /run/user/<uid> and not just the > Kerberos.". Can you point us at some places that have similar issues? > I have no doubt they exist, but they're not on my radar right now and > I'd like to keep track of them. See the lengthy related discussion here https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753882 -- Tomas Mraz No matter how far down the wrong road you've gone, turn back. Turkish proverb -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct