----- Original Message ----- > On 25 July 2013 16:59, Billy Crook <billycrook@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Bastien Nocera <bnocera@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> Given the amount of time that he spent on the mailing-list fighting for > >> those features, then it looks like a waste of time, that work has been > >> done. > > > > Unfeatures technically. He wanted to remove features from the Default > > spin. Subtracting functionality is not a feature. He wanted an > > unfeature. > > > > No he wanted out of the default install. We have a badly defined > naming scheme which is causing confusion: > > default install -> what you get when you put the DVD in and do a click > through install. > default spin -> The GNOME desktop livecd. > > Spins are managed by their respective "teams": > default has been GNOME and managed by GNOME sig > kde is managed by KDE sig > xfce is managed by XFCE sig > etc etc > > So I would say that the GNOME team is within its rights in managing > its spin. Whether it is named default etc is someone else's problem. But within the functional area of the SIG/team. And you know I'm a big fan of more independence of SIGs, and to be honest, I think for Desktops, it's a good move to remove sendmail and rsyslog. The underlying bits should be identical, from the documentation perspective, supportability (ah, we do not have support ;-). One of the Flock proposals says, this should be standard to differ more, another one is more about stable underlying bits, let's see :) Jaroslav > > > -- > Stephen J Smoogen. > -- > devel mailing list > devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel